tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10781944.post8524931296059805386..comments2024-03-28T00:36:36.460-07:00Comments on The Tree of Life: Calling for a Boycott of of AAP - Association of American PublishersJonathan Eisenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07953790938128734305noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10781944.post-33480974267057244862009-09-05T14:13:59.450-07:002009-09-05T14:13:59.450-07:00Well come on guys-- we can't boycott all of th...Well come on guys-- we can't boycott all of them. It needs to be partial..but they do need to be held accountable, good call.Golf Bloghttp://www.golftoimpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10781944.post-56240149735445505522009-02-05T22:57:00.000-08:002009-02-05T22:57:00.000-08:00What is happening with the boycott of the AAP? I'...What is happening with the boycott of the AAP? I've Googled a bit and have not found much about where the boycott is going.<BR/><BR/>PRISM is still very much alive and the AAP is still supporting the Conyers bill.<BR/><BR/>I think it is time to speak up again.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17833215414283601719noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10781944.post-76380444923641979942007-12-28T14:07:00.000-08:002007-12-28T14:07:00.000-08:00Yes, ACS is one of the worst culprits. I think any...Yes, ACS is one of the worst culprits. I think anyone who is a member of ACS should work to change their policies and/or resign.Jonathan Eisenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07953790938128734305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10781944.post-81960382928387268912007-12-27T07:03:00.000-08:002007-12-27T07:03:00.000-08:00If you pay close attention, you'll see that the ma...If you pay close attention, you'll see that the main culprits behind the <A HREF="http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Partnership_for_Research_Integrity_in_Science_%26_Medicine" REL="nofollow">PRISM Coalition</A> is actually the <A HREF="http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=American_Chemical_Society" REL="nofollow">American Chemical Society</A>.<BR/><BR/>The executives at ACS like <A HREF="http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Rudy_Baum" REL="nofollow">Rudy Baum</A>, <A HREF="http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Madeleine_Jacobs" REL="nofollow">Madeleine Jacobs</A>, and especially <A HREF="http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Brian_Crawford" REL="nofollow">Brian Crawford</A> at the AAP are fighting Open Access because they are trying to protect their bonuses.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10781944.post-89213917833932598252007-08-31T14:31:00.000-07:002007-08-31T14:31:00.000-07:00Yes, I agree Steve. The issue is no longer about ...Yes, I agree Steve. The issue is no longer about OA and it about the swift boat style of the PRISM site. As I have said many times, though I am a strong supporter of OA publishing, I realize they are valid concerns from reasonable publishers about how to achieve it. But those publishers need to show their reasonable side by removing themselves from AAP if it does not cancel PRISM.Jonathan Eisenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07953790938128734305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10781944.post-75080269733358400762007-08-31T13:47:00.000-07:002007-08-31T13:47:00.000-07:00Jonathan,Thanks for getting the list!Of course the...Jonathan,<BR/><BR/>Thanks for getting the list!<BR/><BR/>Of course the boycott should be partial. The fact that an organization like Cold Spring Harbor Press wants nothing to do with PRISM is exactly the point. As I said in my blog, the AAP goofed. As the comments from John Inglis make clear, the AAP leadership betrayed its members. Scientific publishing is not the place for the kind of public relations used to argue for Intelligent Design or against global warming. What I want now is for the AAP to give their attack dogs the pink slip, the sooner the better. If, on the other hand, this nonsense continues, then, over time, a more aggressive boycott will become justified. Scientific publishers that don't deserve to be boycotted will resign from the AAP and those that remain will be those that deserve to be boycotted. <BR/><BR/>For me, the issue is less about open access than about the harm done by introducing this sort of irrational argument into the debate.<BR/><BR/>SteveStevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15264977010144529019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10781944.post-59969559991407067242007-08-31T12:19:00.000-07:002007-08-31T12:19:00.000-07:00I have.I have.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10781944.post-49195294588004304072007-08-31T12:09:00.000-07:002007-08-31T12:09:00.000-07:00Good to know John I. I was about to write to you ...Good to know John I. I was about to write to you to ask what you thought about PRISM. I would suggest that as an AAP member you might want to voice displeasure to the board or othters who planned PRISM.Jonathan Eisenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07953790938128734305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10781944.post-12511665318713377412007-08-31T12:06:00.000-07:002007-08-31T12:06:00.000-07:00Jonathan, I'd like to make it clear that membershi...Jonathan, I'd like to make it clear that membership in AAP does not imply or require endorsement of the arguments made by PRISM. Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory Press is currently a member of AAP but our access policies are our own. We were not involved in the formation of PRISM and do not support many of the statements being made on its behalf.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10781944.post-25975774874216862682007-08-30T11:40:00.000-07:002007-08-30T11:40:00.000-07:00I was gonna blog that! :-) Actually I still will...I was gonna blog that! :-) <BR/><BR/>Actually I still will, I want to highlight particular offenders. For instance, University presses should be responsive to faculty input, and so on.Bill Hookerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00366270586730870964noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10781944.post-23441513857607289352007-08-30T10:26:00.000-07:002007-08-30T10:26:00.000-07:00wow, in all the coverage i've been following on pr...wow, in all the coverage i've been following on prism, have never seen the pisd coalition.<BR/><BR/>that just made my day. absolutely brilliant :)kaythaneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16776559861077987743noreply@blogger.com