tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10781944.post6833476820798078937..comments2024-03-28T00:36:36.460-07:00Comments on The Tree of Life: Great call for more openness in biology discussions by Steven Wiley in the ScientistJonathan Eisenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07953790938128734305noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10781944.post-60785376074447029672010-01-07T18:57:50.976-08:002010-01-07T18:57:50.976-08:00John - sorry I missed your comment earlier - yes -...John - sorry I missed your comment earlier - yes - we should try to judge comments by their substance - though sometimes knowing who the comment is coming from can help in interpreting what the comment meansJonathan Eisenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07953790938128734305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10781944.post-68766903977511242782009-12-14T08:06:40.227-08:002009-12-14T08:06:40.227-08:00Isn't judging someones comment based on their ...Isn't judging someones comment based on their name and qualifications, as opposed to the substance of the comment, one of those appeal to authority logical fallacy things?john vargahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13515502335139986825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10781944.post-60058771739743037952009-12-13T10:12:13.073-08:002009-12-13T10:12:13.073-08:00Should have been clearer -- what I mean is, I don&...Should have been clearer -- what I mean is, I don't buy Wiley as a cheerleader for openness of any kind, given his position on data sharing. He talks a good game but I see no reason to expect him to live up to his own words. I imagine he is as reluctant to speak truth to power as anyone, and from his own position of power as intolerant of dissent as any other high-ranking scientist. <br /><br />I also think he could not be more wrong about anonymity. There are good reasons for people to be unwilling to speak truth to power under their own names, and those reasons are not going away any time soon. Wiley seems to regard people who acknowledge this as cowards -- regard them, that is, from his nice safe perch at the top of PNNL. Like most scientists towards the top of the food chain, he has conveniently forgotten how much luck and game-playing went into his success, and now wants everyone else to succeed by being as brave and forthright and talented as he fondly imagines he was.<br /><br />More importantly, there is a difference between anonymous comments that amount to "you suck" and anonymous comments that say "you're wrong, and here is the evidence and reasoning behind that claim". It's not difficult to tell the difference, and evidence should be evaluated on its own merit no matter where it comes from.Bill Hookerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00366270586730870964noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10781944.post-29185622915690749292009-12-12T18:10:18.532-08:002009-12-12T18:10:18.532-08:00I agreed w/ your previous write up Bill --- but th...I agreed w/ your previous write up Bill --- but this is a new post by Wiley and is only about open discussions not data sharing ...Jonathan Eisenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07953790938128734305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10781944.post-4907245003700968492009-12-12T17:08:47.367-08:002009-12-12T17:08:47.367-08:00Here you go, Dr Wiley: you're as wrong as can ...Here you go, Dr Wiley: you're as wrong as can be! <br /><br />http://www.sennoma.net/main/archives/2009/04/why_dont_we_share_data_not_for.phpBill Hookerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00366270586730870964noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10781944.post-48647249133333373582009-12-12T07:16:06.884-08:002009-12-12T07:16:06.884-08:00Lurkers - man I have problems with lurkers. I thi...Lurkers - man I have problems with lurkers. I think right now I am going to disable anonymous commenting too. Stand up and be counted. And give your name.Jonathan Eisenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07953790938128734305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10781944.post-41069879587156407112009-12-11T20:02:01.064-08:002009-12-11T20:02:01.064-08:00I have to agree. There are some great bloggers out...I have to agree. There are some great bloggers out there that I know have lots of readers and when I see they have no comments on a great post I am amazed. Why not give a quick comment of opinion (agree, disagree, who cares, etc.). You are reading it for a reason, so why not throw in your two cents. <br /><br />I have gotten great feedback from people that I otherwise would not have the opportunity. For example, I have been commenting quite a bit on posts by Sean Eddy on Hmmer 3 (which I think it just awesome), and I noticed that the tool was having a minor problem using multiple cpu's (read his blog for more details). A day later I get an email from his developer asking me for details of my problem.<br /><br />I think it must come down to that the stereotypical scientist is usually more of the "lurker" type.Morgan Langillehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15991960337694557528noreply@blogger.com