tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10781944.post4085908901994339735..comments2024-03-17T21:38:11.530-07:00Comments on The Tree of Life: Draft of a Proposal for a UC #OpenAccess policy - comments wantedJonathan Eisenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07953790938128734305noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10781944.post-25272608410871472772012-05-10T11:30:45.320-07:002012-05-10T11:30:45.320-07:00Its this simple, NIH and the NSF are spending some...Its this simple, NIH and the NSF are spending somewhere around 20 billion dollars a year in publishing. If this cos were even reduced by 1/2 (which it could be through purely online publication processes, and internalization of publications by Universities), over 4 years that would allow for 50,000 new 1 million dollar RO1's to be awarded. If those kinds of numbers and savings don't turn people's heads.....Randenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03408915653529625361noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10781944.post-6301322366595927282012-05-07T22:59:05.696-07:002012-05-07T22:59:05.696-07:00"as long as the journal allows this" ......"as long as the journal allows this" ... f$&*# ... WTF? ... why are the journals in charge?Jonathan Eisenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07953790938128734305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10781944.post-42352684536595937932012-05-07T15:28:13.114-07:002012-05-07T15:28:13.114-07:00As weak as this?
http://bbsrc.ac.uk/news/policy/2...As weak as this?<br /><br />http://bbsrc.ac.uk/news/policy/2012/120430-n-open-access-publishing-update.aspxBioMickWatsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08907442705975203661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10781944.post-19145189450556949412012-05-03T17:48:53.690-07:002012-05-03T17:48:53.690-07:00It seems completely lame Graham. Why introduce a ...It seems completely lame Graham. Why introduce a policy and then describe how easily it can be circumvented? <br /><br />To quote<br /><br />"The University of California will waive application of the license for a particular article or delay access for a specified period of time upon express direction by a Faculty member."<br /><br />And then they describe the meaning of this (to them): <br /><br />(The option to opt out of this policy is absolute and rests with the faculty member. Faculty members may either waive the open access requirement completely for a particular article, or delay it for a specified time. This opt-out requirement is simple to implement and in order to allow faculty to ultimately determine which materials should be widely available. It is possible that publishers could abuse this option, by refusing to publish unless the faculty opts out. But many publishers already allow open access deposits (so-called “green OA”), and we hope that the policy encourages others to do so as well. Note also that this waiver is intended to apply to the open access requirement and not to the deposit requirement (see below); as such it may make sense to list the deposit requirement first, and then the open access requirement second so as to avoid confusion on this point.)<br /><br />So - we have an open access policy unless someone doesn't want to follow it. No teeth. Weak.Jonathan Eisenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07953790938128734305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10781944.post-2893746169483636092012-05-03T17:03:56.701-07:002012-05-03T17:03:56.701-07:00Hi Jonathan,
So are you against the exceptions on ...Hi Jonathan,<br />So are you against the exceptions on principal or because you think that journals would actually force people to bow out? <br /><br />GrahamGraham Coophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05140268044719927398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10781944.post-86721693732666941052012-05-03T15:49:57.786-07:002012-05-03T15:49:57.786-07:00This is a really awesome project!This is a really awesome project!Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07977566113013157487noreply@blogger.com