tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10781944.post4379974635255851199..comments2024-03-28T00:36:36.460-07:00Comments on The Tree of Life: Trip to CALIT2 & CAMERAJonathan Eisenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07953790938128734305noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10781944.post-75164847424371161772008-09-24T07:27:00.000-07:002008-09-24T07:27:00.000-07:00Thanks Saul. I tried to ask around but never got ...Thanks Saul. I tried to ask around but never got a satisfactory answer to post here so it is really good that you posted and provide the Sourceforge link, etc.Jonathan Eisenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07953790938128734305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10781944.post-28561779290350992692008-09-23T20:31:00.000-07:002008-09-23T20:31:00.000-07:00FYI: All of CAMERA’s source code is open source -...FYI: All of CAMERA’s source code is open source -- http://sourceforge.net/projects/bio-camera/ <BR/><BR/>Regarding the data: CAMERA’s data access policy is driven by international treaty obligations. Registration is driven by the requirements of the Convention on Bio-Diversity, and meant to ensure that marine researchers continue to be able to collect samples. You can actually poke around on camera through all of the annotation data without being registered, but you have to login to see the sequence itself or use the tools. There are no restrictions on redistribution of CAMERA data, as long as you cite country of origin.saul_kravitzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01994725165467143846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10781944.post-56009986260836467642008-05-12T18:12:00.000-07:002008-05-12T18:12:00.000-07:00Actually, Rob, lame as it may sound, I did not kno...Actually, Rob, lame as it may sound, I did not know that about the Open Source ...<BR/><BR/>On our trip to CAMERA I did ask specifically about future developments and if they would be open source and they did say yes. But I did not even think about the current version. I can only say I hope in the future it will be more Open Source. Maybe some of the readers involved in CAMERA can post about this.<BR/><BR/>My main political issue has been Open Access to publications. But I agree that Open Source software and Open Data are also important. So --- thanks for posting.<BR/><BR/>I should note --- all software developed in my lab in the future, including all work on my new metagenomics project, will be developed Open Source. <BR/><BR/>And as much as possible, all data I produce will also be released as rapidly as possible. And I will try to do my best to support, encourage and WRITE ABOUT --- truly open projects whenever possible. So thanks for keeping my on my toes.Jonathan Eisenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07953790938128734305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10781944.post-74464597390727951022008-05-12T17:26:00.000-07:002008-05-12T17:26:00.000-07:00You know, for someone that is so into open source ...You know, for someone that is so into open source access, I am constantly surprised that you support CAMERA or IMG/M. Neither are open source for either their code or their data. Neither provide free, unrestricted access to tools. In fact, as far as I have been able to figure out you can't even link in to either database directly.<BR/><BR/>Not exactly OPEN, in any sense of the word.<BR/><BR/>There are open source alternatives out there. Of course you know my favorite. Here's a link to what a real open source system should look like. <A HREF="ftp://ftp.theseed.org/" REL="nofollow">Code, data, everything out there</A> for all to share.Rob Edwardshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05352256481639713680noreply@blogger.com